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Por-15 Inside The Rails?

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 01:03 PM

Yeah,It's dumb question time today. How would one get por-15 into the insides of my frame rails? Looking to get some extra rust prevention going. Does anyone have any opinions or input on how i could get this done?
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Posted 02 November 2009 - 03:06 PM

Remove the frame and dip it in a huge vat of POR 15, after prep work, of course.

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 03:22 PM

Wash the frame out GOOD.
Use some sort of snake tool with a large wire brush rotary tool on it, to clean it up a bit....
Wash it out again.
Dry.
put some sort of small hose through the entire frame, then put some sort of radial sprayer attachment on it, and pull it through while spraying por15 :D
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Posted 02 November 2009 - 06:35 PM

Since i purhased my 92 a couple years ago ive been flushing out the inner and outer frame and been appling rust check(oil guard type of substance).I fabbed up a spray type contraption by clamping a length of copper tubing to a brass hose fitting that fits my garden hose.By crimping the end of the copper tube a bit i can get a not bad spray pattern with some sort of adequate pressure.The copper is flexable so you can manouver it up ,down,arond the inside of the rail.The first time i did it the amount of crap that came out was unreal.Going to do this yearly and hope it helps.
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Posted 02 November 2009 - 10:55 PM

View PostOldSlowReliable, on 02 November 2009 - 03:22 PM, said:

Wash the frame out GOOD.
Use some sort of snake tool with a large wire brush rotary tool on it, to clean it up a bit....
Wash it out again.
Dry.
put some sort of small hose through the entire frame, then put some sort of radial sprayer attachment on it, and pull it through while spraying por15 :D


I think i like this one the best.

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Since i purhased my 92 a couple years ago ive been flushing out the inner and outer frame and been appling rust check(oil guard type of substance).I fabbed up a spray type contraption by clamping a length of copper tubing to a brass hose fitting that fits my garden hose.By crimping the end of the copper tube a bit i can get a not bad spray pattern with some sort of adequate pressure.The copper is flexable so you can manouver it up ,down,arond the inside of the rail.The first time i did it the amount of crap that came out was unreal.Going to do this yearly and hope it helps.


This helps explain how to fab up the tool in question. I'll talk to my tech tommorow and see what his ideas on the subject are,too. i want to get this outta the way before the snow starts.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 07:20 AM

Rinse it down well inside the channels (GrimGreg has a post for a handy spray tool), let it dry and then spray it inside and out with denatured fish oil. Reapply whenever desired. Natural, durable rust barrier, cheap, simple, eco friendly.

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 07:43 AM

without the prep (cleaning debris, removing loose rust, etc...) POR-15 would be a waste of alot of money as it wouldn't work well.
one of the other options (Dino or Fish based)
I use POR-15 and love it! just not on the inside of the frame rails
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 07:45 AM

Fluid film. It's environmentally friendly (basically, it's fish oil) and it isn't water soluble. Forms a great barrier. It's used in all sorts of industrial applications both as an anti-corrosion coating, and a non-stick coating. (snow plows)
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 09:52 AM

I also have CARC at my disposal. however,i'm not sure i want my frame turning desert tan.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 10:41 AM

Great advice in this thread everyone! I love the ideas that include enviro-friendly options. Often these solutions work best as well as being a responsible choice.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 10:48 AM

Hey Simon,Is fluid film paintable?
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 10:51 AM

Nope.... It's more like a thick PB Blaster, or WD40, only, it actually stops rust. It thickens up even more after application to keep moisture out.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 11:25 AM

is it clear?
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 11:39 AM

clear-ish. It dries (though not completely) dark. Sprays on almost clear.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 11:43 AM

do you use a basecoat or just apply it to bare metal?
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 11:46 AM

Apply it to bare metal.....

Here ya go....all you need to know.... It's really good stuff, though, not cheap. ~$12-15 per can CAD.

http://www.fluid-fil...plications.html
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 11:49 AM

looks like i'm picking some up then.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 11:52 AM

To further explain the vitues of Fluid film, I'll share some of the things I use it for.

- Warn Hub lubrication. Most grease is too thick, so I coat the inside of the hubs and mechanisms with fluid film to keep things turning smooth

- Long term penetrant. PB Blaster is used if I want to spray a bolt, wait 5 minutes and try to loosen. If that doesn't work, I use fluid film and wait a day or 2. Usually the bolts come out without a problem.

- Water displacemnt. I coat any exposed electrical connections on the truck with it, especially those that will be immersed in water (trail runs). Seems to work well fighting against corrosion
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 01:19 PM

http://www.septone.c...=356&page_num=6

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Septone Deodorised Fish Oil is a deodorised, anti rust, corrosion preventative designed to inhibit the formation of rust in internal box sections, door cavities, sills and pillars of motor vehicles, as well as on structural steel, railings, gates, bridges, pontoons and for the protection of welds. Fish Oil has long been considered to be one of the most effective products for rust prevention. Fish Oil penetrates through rust to give the parent metal protection from further rusting. However, note that Fish Oil is not a rust converter. For badly rusted areas, apply a rust converter prior to applying Fish Oil.


http://www.whiteknig...t/view/fish-oil

Most sources are Australian though.

Hey, you ever see a rusty fish?? :shrug:

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 01:48 PM

I think we have 55 gallon drums of fluid-fil at work, I r stupit! :shiftyeyes:
We use it to coat CNH tractors before shipping them overseas to protect them from salt, etc...
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