[GEOz2k7]

sammyb33, on Sep 4 2009, 02:54 PM, said:

you could easily do a chevy 63 swap in the rear of your hardbody

http://www.ruffstuff...swap-p-279.html

thanks man. awsome info for me. that takes care of my rear if they go good has anyone seen this on a nissa? the 63" chevy springs?

[packie88]

yea i think a guy either on nissan4wheelers.com or the AC boards had em... not sure which ones... but i do know there is alot of good info on the nissan4wheelers.com website if you wanna check that one out as well and read there info but let us know ifyou have any more ?

[Mookie]

GEOz2k7, on Sep 6 2009, 06:25 AM, said:

thanks man. awsome info for me. that takes care of my rear if they go good has anyone seen this on a nissa? the 63" chevy springs?

Chevy 63's on a Pathy - gives you an idea for your HB.

[885SPD]

Number 1: A Dana 30 front out of a Cherokee would be a reverse rotation front axle. If the shaft breaks the wheel does not fall off! Only if you break the outer stub shaft will it do that, also good luck on that, I run 37" tires on a locked and chromoed D30. Having said all of that, yes I would still go for the D44 as it can be built stronger and has the capability of using Locking hubs. The 30 can get locking hubs but they are extremely expensive. Also saying that the D30 is only good for stock tires shows your ignorance in the Dana 30!

Simon

[Balmer]

885SPD, on 01 November 2009 - 05:50 PM, said:

Number 1: A Dana 30 front out of a Cherokee would be a reverse rotation front axle. If the shaft breaks the wheel does not fall off! Only if you break the outer stub shaft will it do that, also good luck on that, I run 37" tires on a locked and chromoed D30. Having said all of that, yes I would still go for the D44 as it can be built stronger and has the capability of using Locking hubs. The 30 can get locking hubs but they are extremely expensive. Also saying that the D30 is only good for stock tires shows your ignorance in the Dana 30!

Simon

I have to agree that the D30 is a WAY under-rated axle. I've seen guys run hard with 35"s on them for several seasons with no breakage (open diff). As noted, the D44 is a better choice, but if a guy had a D30 sitting in front of him it would potentially be an axle worth building.

[KJ139]

Balmer, on 03 November 2009 - 12:14 PM, said:

I have to agree that the D30 is a WAY under-rated axle. I've seen guys run hard with 35"s on them for several seasons with no breakage (open diff). As noted, the D44 is a better choice, but if a guy had a D30 sitting in front of him it would potentially be an axle worth building.

I agree wholeheartedly with both of these posts. The Cherokee rear was most commonly the Dana "turdy-five", which is the worst axle in the history of Jeeps. The front, on the other hand, is a high pinion (reverse rotation) Dana 30. This is a VERY strong axle. In fact, it is comparable to the D-44 in many ways (including being able to get 30-spline shafts and lockers) and contains many of the same parts as on the TJ Dana 44. It uses a unit hub, so no matter what you break, the wheels stay attached, as it is held in place by a large 36mm nut to the unit hub. I have a Cherokee with a Dana 30 front and I run 35's with ARB air lockers. This year I wheeled the Rubicon, the High Lakes Basin, as well as Fordyce (without a doubt the toughest trail in northern CA...Far tougher than the Rubicon). I don't take it easy on the rig and have broken LOTS of parts, but never the Dana 30.

If you have a 44 lying around that doesn't require the work and expense of narrowing it, use it. If not, the Dana 30 is a great choice. In fact, if you use chromoly and 30-splines, it will take 37's. I am currently installing gears and lockers into a rear Dana 44 and a front Dana 30 for my son's Jeep YJ and plan to put it on 37's. The only negative about the 30 is, like mentioned before, converting it to manual hubs is VERY expensive. The unit hubs can give up sometimes, but they rarely fail completely. They tend to get a little slop in them and you notice it at full turn and replace them at the tune of $120 each. I've replaced both on the Cherokee, but only after years of abuse and neither ever left me stranded. The Ford Super-Duty trucks use unit bearings on the front and those are massive vehicles. The D-30 hubs should withstand the Pathfinder without much trouble.

[87pathy]

the d 30 is fine until you break a stub shaft and the wheel falls off.

seen it.

[885SPD]

Dana 44 is fine until you shear the spindle from seized bearings, and the wheel falls off (ITS CALLED MAINTENANCE PEOPLE!!!)! Seen that too! But the point is that the 30 would suffice if it's all you can get, however, you have to run the smaller bolt pattern which sucks!! There are about 4 waggy front axles in the TN craigslist and a few complete waggys for under a grand!! So the waggy axle is not hard to find! But watch out, only get the 4-door axle as it is the same width, all of the others are wider!!! By the way was it the stub breaking or was it the fact that the nut had not been pinned? I have a shop and have seen that way too often!

This post has been edited by 885SPD: 07 November 2009 - 04:59 PM

[87pathy]

885SPD, on 07 November 2009 - 04:56 PM, said:

Dana 44 is fine until you shear the spindle from seized bearings, and the wheel falls off (ITS CALLED MAINTENANCE PEOPLE!!!)! Seen that too! But the point is that the 30 would suffice if it's all you can get, however, you have to run the smaller bolt pattern which sucks!! There are about 4 waggy front axles in the TN craigslist and a few complete waggys for under a grand!! So the waggy axle is not hard to find! But watch out, only get the 4-door axle as it is the same width, all of the others are wider!!! By the way was it the stub breaking or was it the fact that the nut had not been pinned? I have a shop and have seen that way too often!

stub shaft breaking. seen it several times.

if somebody doesn't do maint. on their 44, well thats dumb.. but a broken stub shaft causeing teh wheel to fall off due to over stress, thats poor design.

why do you think all the jeep guys (less weight equal power) change them out? thats why you can find the D30 so cheap.. cause nobody wants them.

can you wheel it.. yes.
you can polish a turd, but its still a turd.
even a 44 is boarderline.
I broke an inner shaft on its shake down run several years ago.
broke another one 6 months later
broke an alloy after that.

yes i'm locked in the front

This post has been edited by 87pathy: 08 November 2009 - 03:53 PM